I bought these picks as a way to try and improve my picking dynamics, and damn these are good for that. I'm normally a user of very thick picks, such as hufschmid style or even homemade plectrums often going up to 7mm thick. These are incredibly good for somebody who likes thicker plectrums, as they have all the subtle fat tones of a thick pick, but all the playability nuances of a thinner plectrum. Also, very good grip on these, doubt I'd ever drop one mid playing.